{"id":8518,"date":"2025-05-06T19:35:31","date_gmt":"2025-05-06T19:35:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/firearmman.com\/?p=8518"},"modified":"2025-05-06T19:35:34","modified_gmt":"2025-05-06T19:35:34","slug":"judge-questions-whether-noncitizens-have-same-free-speech-protections-as-us-citizens","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/firearmman.com\/?p=8518","title":{"rendered":"Judge questions whether noncitizens have same free speech protections as US citizens"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-testid=\"prism-article-body\">\n<p class=\"EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao MvWXB TjIXL aGjvy ebVHC \">As court battles over the Trump administration&#8217;s revocation of foreign student visas heat up, a federal judge in Boston is considering the question of whether those in the United States who are not citizens are protected under the same constitutional right to free speech as U.S. citizens.<\/p>\n<p class=\"EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy \">During a court hearing in Massachusetts preparing for a trial in a lawsuit challenging the Trump administration&#8217;s student visa revocation, Judge William Young suggested that it is &#8220;not clear&#8221; to him that noncitizens have the &#8220;full rights to free speech&#8221; that citizens have, as the Trump administration attempts to <a class=\"zZygg UbGlr iFzkS qdXbA WCDhQ DbOXS tqUtK GpWVU iJYzE \" data-testid=\"prism-linkbase\" href=\"https:\/\/abcnews.go.com\/US\/lawyers-columbia-student-detained-ice-seek-release-case\/story?id=121317902\" target=\"_blank\">use the speech<\/a> of <a class=\"zZygg UbGlr iFzkS qdXbA WCDhQ DbOXS tqUtK GpWVU iJYzE \" data-testid=\"prism-linkbase\" href=\"https:\/\/abcnews.go.com\/Politics\/foreign-college-students-targeted-deportation\/story?id=120210587\" target=\"_blank\">some international students<\/a> to justify their deportations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy \">&#8220;I find that that&#8217;s assumed by a number of my colleagues in related cases that deal with free speech in the lower courts, but I&#8217;m not clear that noncitizens have, I will call them, the full rights to free speech that a citizen has,&#8221; the Reagan-appointed judge said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy \">&#8220;I&#8217;m hopeful we don&#8217;t get to it in this case, but I don&#8217;t see how that will work if a noncitizen has the same rights as a citizen to speak about these matters,&#8221; the judge said, suggesting the question should be answered by the Supreme Court.<\/p>\n<div class=\"oLzSq QrHMO fnRUo pvsTF EhJPu vPlOC zNYgW OsTsW RMeqy daRVX ISNQ sKyCY eRftA acPPc MENS nFwaT MCnQE mEeeY SmBjI xegrY rPLsU iulOd NIuqO zzscu lzDCc aHUBM IEgzD OjMNy eQqcx SVqKB GQmdz jaoD VWDdR ONJdw vrZxD OnRTz gbbfF roDbV GPGwb oMlSS gfNzt oJhud eXZcf zhVlX \">\n<div>\n<div class=\"InlineImage GpQCA lZur asrEW \" data-testid=\"prism-inline-image\">\n<figure class=\"kzIjN GNmeK pYrtp dSqFO \" data-testid=\"prism-figure\">\n<div class=\"GpQCA lZur gIjeL \" data-testid=\"prism-ratio-frame\">\n<div class=\"FvQLF iLTd NqeUA UzzHi iWsMV \"><picture data-testid=\"prism-picture\"><source media=\"(max-width: 414px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i.abcnewsfe.com\/a\/d17bd240-30c3-47da-ac4e-b3c5eae581bd\/mahdawi-protest-gty-jef-250506_1746554958102_hpMain.jpg?w=375, https:\/\/i.abcnewsfe.com\/a\/d17bd240-30c3-47da-ac4e-b3c5eae581bd\/mahdawi-protest-gty-jef-250506_1746554958102_hpMain.jpg?w=750 2x\"\/><source media=\"(min-width: 415px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i.abcnewsfe.com\/a\/d17bd240-30c3-47da-ac4e-b3c5eae581bd\/mahdawi-protest-gty-jef-250506_1746554958102_hpMain.jpg?w=750, https:\/\/i.abcnewsfe.com\/a\/d17bd240-30c3-47da-ac4e-b3c5eae581bd\/mahdawi-protest-gty-jef-250506_1746554958102_hpMain.jpg?w=1500 2x\"\/><\/picture><\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption>\n<div class=\"nMMea bNYiy Mjgpa dGwha DDmxa jgKNG RGHCC aBIU PriDW lZur \" data-testid=\"prism-caption\">\n<p><span class=\"hsDdd OOSI GpQCA lZur VlFaz \" data-testid=\"prism-truncate\"><span><span class=\"gtOSm FbbUW tUtYa vOCwz EQwFq yCufu eEak Qmvg nyTIa SRXVc vzLa jgBfc WXDas CiUCW kqbG zrdEG txGfn ygKVe BbezD UOtxr CVfpq xijV soGRS XgdC sEIlf daWqJ \">People gather for a rally in support of Tufts University student Rumeysa Ozturk and Columbia University student activist Mohsen Mahdawi in Foley Square on May 06, 2025 in New York City.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"gtOSm FbbUW tUtYa vOCwz EQwFq yCufu eEak Qmvg nyTIa SRXVc vzLa jgBfc WXDas CiUCW kqbG zrdEG txGfn ygKVe BbezD UOtxr CVfpq xijV soGRS XgdC sEIlf daWqJ YNujN JGtjI aZFDu rkKLh \">Michael M. Santiago\/Getty Images<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy \">In March, the American Association of University Professors, the Middle East Studies Association and other organizations representing academics and students at universities, including Harvard University, sued the Trump administration, claiming the government&#8217;s recent efforts to revoke visas and detain and deport pro-Palestinian activists have &#8220;created a climate of repression and fear on university campuses.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy \">The groups have accused the Trump administration of &#8220;terrorizing students and faculty for their exercise of First Amendment rights,&#8221; while the government has sought to throw out the case, dismissing the claim that the Trump administration is enforcing a policy of &#8220;ideological deportations.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy \">The case is expected to proceed to a trial in June.<\/p>\n<p class=\"EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy \">During Tuesday&#8217;s hearing, Young stressed this is &#8220;truly a free speech case,&#8221; explaining that both high-ranking officials, including the president, and their critics are protected under free speech, no matter how &#8220;brutal, coarse, demeaning&#8221; the speech might be.<\/p>\n<p class=\"EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy \">He also specified that he considers pro-Palestinian advocacy and criticism of the state of Israel, as well as antisemitism, free speech because hate speech is not prohibited under the First Amendment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy \">What the court aims to find through the trial, the judge said, is whether the federal government committed any &#8220;retribution&#8221; against people for their speech to a chilling effect, which the plaintiffs claim and the government denies.<\/p>\n<p class=\"EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy \">&#8220;We&#8217;re going to have to figure out what happened &#8212; what is it that the plaintiffs say is actual retribution against speakers?&#8221; Young said.<\/p>\n<div class=\"oLzSq QrHMO fnRUo pvsTF EhJPu vPlOC zNYgW OsTsW RMeqy daRVX ISNQ sKyCY eRftA acPPc MENS nFwaT MCnQE mEeeY SmBjI xegrY rPLsU iulOd NIuqO zzscu lzDCc aHUBM IEgzD OjMNy eQqcx SVqKB GQmdz jaoD VWDdR ONJdw vrZxD OnRTz gbbfF roDbV GPGwb oMlSS gfNzt oJhud eXZcf zhVlX \">\n<div>\n<div class=\"InlineImage GpQCA lZur asrEW \" data-testid=\"prism-inline-image\">\n<figure class=\"kzIjN GNmeK pYrtp dSqFO \" data-testid=\"prism-figure\">\n<div class=\"GpQCA lZur gIjeL \" data-testid=\"prism-ratio-frame\">\n<div class=\"FvQLF iLTd NqeUA UzzHi iWsMV \"><picture data-testid=\"prism-picture\"><source media=\"(max-width: 414px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i.abcnewsfe.com\/a\/eb501b17-ba14-43dd-b99e-281b790e6baa\/mohsen-mahdawi-ap-jef-250506_1746554953982_hpEmbed.jpg?w=375, https:\/\/i.abcnewsfe.com\/a\/eb501b17-ba14-43dd-b99e-281b790e6baa\/mohsen-mahdawi-ap-jef-250506_1746554953982_hpEmbed.jpg?w=750 2x\"\/><source media=\"(min-width: 415px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i.abcnewsfe.com\/a\/eb501b17-ba14-43dd-b99e-281b790e6baa\/mohsen-mahdawi-ap-jef-250506_1746554953982_hpEmbed.jpg?w=750, https:\/\/i.abcnewsfe.com\/a\/eb501b17-ba14-43dd-b99e-281b790e6baa\/mohsen-mahdawi-ap-jef-250506_1746554953982_hpEmbed.jpg?w=1500 2x\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" class=\"hsDdd NDJZt sJeUN IJwXl vBqtr KrDt itslR SjwtZ hakZw HlUVI \" data-testid=\"prism-image\" draggable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/i.abcnewsfe.com\/a\/eb501b17-ba14-43dd-b99e-281b790e6baa\/mohsen-mahdawi-ap-jef-250506_1746554953982_hpEmbed.jpg\"\/><\/picture><\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption>\n<div class=\"nMMea bNYiy Mjgpa dGwha DDmxa jgKNG RGHCC aBIU PriDW lZur \" data-testid=\"prism-caption\">\n<p><span class=\"hsDdd OOSI GpQCA lZur VlFaz \" data-testid=\"prism-truncate\"><span><span class=\"gtOSm FbbUW tUtYa vOCwz EQwFq yCufu eEak Qmvg nyTIa SRXVc vzLa jgBfc WXDas CiUCW kqbG zrdEG txGfn ygKVe BbezD UOtxr CVfpq xijV soGRS XgdC sEIlf daWqJ \">Mohsen Mahdawi speaks outside the courthouse after a judge released the Palestinian student activist, April 30, 2025 in Burlington, Vt.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"gtOSm FbbUW tUtYa vOCwz EQwFq yCufu eEak Qmvg nyTIa SRXVc vzLa jgBfc WXDas CiUCW kqbG zrdEG txGfn ygKVe BbezD UOtxr CVfpq xijV soGRS XgdC sEIlf daWqJ YNujN JGtjI aZFDu rkKLh \">Amanda Swinhart\/AP<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC TjIXL aGjvy \">The judge added that he is also seeking detailed explanations from the government on its visa revocation, detention and deportation process.<\/p>\n<p class=\"EkqkG IGXmU nlgHS yuUao lqtkC eTIW sUzSN \">&#8220;When we get down to the level of ICE enforcement agents \u2026 I want to know what was going on. Why were they armed or masked or not or identified or not &#8212; all of that. What was going on and why? Who set that out? Who set up this business with the Mahdawi in Vermont?&#8221; the judge said, referring to the case of Palestinian Columbia University student Mohsen Mahdawi, who was arrested at a citizenship interview and was recently released.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As court battles over the Trump administration&#8217;s revocation of foreign student visas heat up, a federal judge in Boston is considering the question of whether those in the United States who are not citizens are protected under the same constitutional right to free speech as U.S. citizens. 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